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Dec. 4th, 2004 05:45 pmFucking Goddess-damned Puritanical thought processes.
I don't share them, in fact, I honestly don't even understand them. And what little I do comprehend, disgusts me. Suffice it to say that I get told on a fairly frequent basis that I'm talking about something inapporopriate for the kids in front of them.
By your standards. Your standards. Welcome to Dutch standards.
I'm quite incredibly angry right now. If everyone else was really worried about all this shit, then we wouldn't be living in this arrangement. But we are. Therefore, my conclusion is that the rest of my family is overreacting something fierce out of fear. We're different, therefore we must be extra careful. It doesn't work like that.
We are going to sit down tomorrow, before game. We are going to sit, and the boundaries on 'inappropriate' are going to be figured out.
Because I'll be damned to the lowest pits of the Abyss before I give into the attitude that sex is a secret, and a dirty one at that, one that you never, ever, ever talk about. And I'll rip Sanctuary into shreds before I help my daughters pick that attitude up.
I've watched it damage or destroy too many people to be quiet.
I don't share them, in fact, I honestly don't even understand them. And what little I do comprehend, disgusts me. Suffice it to say that I get told on a fairly frequent basis that I'm talking about something inapporopriate for the kids in front of them.
By your standards. Your standards. Welcome to Dutch standards.
I'm quite incredibly angry right now. If everyone else was really worried about all this shit, then we wouldn't be living in this arrangement. But we are. Therefore, my conclusion is that the rest of my family is overreacting something fierce out of fear. We're different, therefore we must be extra careful. It doesn't work like that.
We are going to sit down tomorrow, before game. We are going to sit, and the boundaries on 'inappropriate' are going to be figured out.
Because I'll be damned to the lowest pits of the Abyss before I give into the attitude that sex is a secret, and a dirty one at that, one that you never, ever, ever talk about. And I'll rip Sanctuary into shreds before I help my daughters pick that attitude up.
I've watched it damage or destroy too many people to be quiet.
UmmUmmm
Date: 2004-12-04 05:08 pm (UTC)What has been said that has been deemed inappropriate?
Re: UmmUmmm
Date: 2004-12-04 07:21 pm (UTC)I forget how we got to Catchild's comment that flashbacks lead to dryness for her. I responded that I counted myself very lucky that I was able to tell my partner if and when I needed to stop, including in the middle of sex. I think the exact wording was: "I'm lucky in that, I can, in the middle of sex, if need be, tell who I'm with 'No, no, no, need to stop'"
By my personal standards, the above conversation was not inappropriate. My standards differ from the American norm. I believe the words 'lube', and 'sex' were used, and that they were the most suggestive words used in the entire conversation.
Errrr, if I'm way the hell outta line on this one, please let me know. Really. Honest.
Re: UmmUmmm
Date: 2004-12-05 06:04 am (UTC)That conversation would not be considered out of line in my own home.
Details of a specific sex act that had happened would be considered inappropriate in front of the kids. A general comment like that would not.
Households differ, certainly.
Re: UmmUmmm
Date: 2004-12-05 08:06 am (UTC)That conversation would not be considered out of line in my own home.
Part of 'omi's point is that we don't really have the rules hashed out. Last night was also following a compressed family meeting wich was very stressful. we need to sit down and figure out what is ok and what isn't, so we don't get difficulties cropping up from 20 different perspectives. (Both my mate and i are multipule so 4 bodies ~20 perspectives and ideas)
For the record, looking back over the conversation, i don't think it had actually crossed the line. It was getting close enough to my line to make me a bit uncomfortable at the time. Drkn's comment was out of line (imo).
Thanks for the input you give, we value it.