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Naomi ([personal profile] omimouse) wrote2005-05-11 08:22 pm
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Brain hurts now

Reading Chick Tracts can be amusing. Reading the articles on D&D that they have up on the site however . . .

It's sad when I'm a better Christian than most people who call themselves Christian are. It really is. Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, care for the sick, shelter the needy. It's even sadder when the character that I'm going to be playing this weekend is a better Christian than most.

Y'know, the cleric of sun, moon, and stars that loves without condition, heals, comforts, tithes to churches that aid the needy, forgives, and who spends much more time practicing her beliefs than preaching them.

But, in the popular 'Christian' worldview she also pays homage to more than one god, has a female lover, and is a sorcerer in addition to being a cleric. In the popular 'Christian' worldview, I am pagan, bisexual, and have two husbands.

-sigh- My polypantheistic D&D cleric3/sorcerer4/mystic wanderer2 should not be a better Christian than the outspoken majority of Christianity. Okay? The fact that she is means that there's a real problem here, folks.

[identity profile] dornbeast.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
The key here is "outspoken majority." Dilbert once observed that the craziest people seem to be the ones that define reality. That may be true; they're certainly the most visible ones.

The people who write Chick tracts are, in some ways, the craziest of Christians. They certainly qualify as fanatics, in my opinion. They are not, as far as I know, a true majority of Christians. They're just the ones that talk too much.

And like a songbird in the same room as the stereo, the quiet people who are too busy being Christian to talk about it go completely unnoticed. Can't hear 'em over the noise.

Peter Eng

i thought Chick was a chicken baby

[identity profile] titaniablue.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
even as a christian, i'm one of the weirdo "odd people out." the folks who do the Chick tracts, in my opinion, are probably sitting there with a demon attached to their backs whispering in their ears telling them what to write in order to drive away potential "good and actual christians" from the very faith the tract writer thinks he's defending. it's people like them that drove me out of church in the first place. in fact, it's people like them that drove just about all of my pagan friends out of church in the first place. those people, as far as i'm concerned, are not christians at all, but sleeper agents working for the other side. they scare people away more than scare them into acting "right." i find Chick tracts laughable at best, at worst they are a form of evil much worse than that which they are "warning" against.

[identity profile] mikailova.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is it that people who know the least, know it the loudest?

Sometimes I wonder if there really aren't all that many Christian fanatical, bible thumpers out there. It's just that the ones that are have to be so loud, they overpower the good Christians. I've met quite a few good Christians in my day, but they have always been soft spoken and very kind. Unfortuneatley, it's the loud, rude ones I remember the most, because a negative impression seems to last longer.

i thought thumper was a rabbit

[identity profile] titaniablue.livejournal.com 2005-05-12 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
there aren't all that many of them, no. for the most part, the majority of people sitting under the "christian" umbrella are apathetic toward God anyway. most people don't even care. they might jump on the "let's be narrowminded and backward" bandwagon, completely ignoring everything that Jesus taught and anything that's actually in the Bible. like that whole thing about getting along and loving each other as you love yourself and as you love God. it's the loud, rude, negative ones that make me want to hide under a rock and wish the world would just end. is it any wonder i wanted to hide my beliefs from people? i knew i'd be associated with those people. even those who knew me would forget what kind of person i am and upon hearing the word "christian" might change their entire view of me.

i still think i'm among those who know the least, but at least i will readily admit that i don't know. i don't have any answers. i'm clueless. i try not to know it too loudly. don't know how well i succeed, but i do try.

[identity profile] cerval.livejournal.com 2005-05-13 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Ironic, isn't it? I've been reading quite a bit lately about the "good Christians" and their movement to stand up and speak out against the Religious Right. I find that encouraging.

[identity profile] warinbear.livejournal.com 2005-05-13 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm very pleased to hear that.

Where are you finding this reading matter? I'd like to check it out myself, so that (in my voluminous free time) I might be able to get involved. It might be very satisfying to say "Get off my team!" from time to time, but it would be much more effective if I said it where they could hear it.

[identity profile] cerval.livejournal.com 2005-05-13 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Most recently, I suggest the excellent post in [livejournal.com profile] crossfire_'s journal, which contains a speech from a Texas (Senator? Congresswoman? I'm not all the way awake yet...). It's truly moving. A lot of the rest of what I've read has been 'here-and-there'. There was a great article in Westword, a local paper here, that I linked to a few months back, and several articles that have been in the other local paper. Seems like I've seen it mentioned in other journals as well. The general feeling is that all of the "nice, good Christians" have to pull together, instead of individually, since they're working against such a unified force.